Edward is lame

Jan 17, 2009 at 7:25 PM
I have read the first two books of Twilight now. Libs brought Twilight wiht her, and we bought the second book when in Portland last week.

OK. Is it just me or is Jacob seriously just a BETTER PERSON than Edward?

But I never even liked Edward much; I thought Bella's love seemed obsessive and childish, rather than uplifting or wonderful.

And I thought Edward seemed rather pointlessly broody.

I know I'm building a huge "hate" club by saying this, but I have a far more mature view of what love is than the Twilight books do.

Therefore, I think that happy, helpful, kind, fun, loving, THERE, and temperature-or-otherwise hot Jacob is a FAR better choice.

Hate me if you will. I'm pissed at Bella for loving beautiful but moody Edward. The whole first book read like a very immaturely thought out romance novel, rather than a real dialog about the nature of endless affectionate love.

Ad after reading the second book, I found that the actions he does and the effect Jacob has on Bella mean that Jacob is SOOO much better of a choice.

How can anyone still want Bella and Edward together after book two? I don't get it? Even Edward's half-assed not-nearly-extensive-enough apologies at the end of book 2 didn't do it for me. I still think he's flighty, immature, rash, and pointlessly broody and moody and grumpy.


I almost don't want to read the rest of the books now.

The movie was godawful, too. Edward looked like a member of The Cure, and they both acted like foolish young idiots instead of "mature" for their ages. And the acting/writing/trouble put into making it right were not enough to make me feel it was meant for "thinkers" or serious readers like me.




  1. Kat Says:

    Ok. I have a few things to say here.

    1. Oh, shut UP! Obsessive and childish? Pointlessly broody? Immature romance novel? You say that like it's a bad thing. The first book was just so much indulgent FUN for exactly those wonderfully obsessive, broody reasons.

    You're complaining that it didn't make you feel like it was meant for "thinkers" or serious readers like you? Are you effing KIDDING ME? You know it totally was NOT meant for you at all, right?

    2. Just finished the 2nd book myself. Didn't like it as much as the first, but I agree about Jacob. Put it this way. You'd have a wildly passionate, unforgettable affair with an Edward. And then, if you're smart, marry a Jacob.

    Jacob is so good - the whole "can't help herself, must have Edward" thing is getting boring.

    But then... I very, very nearly married my "Edward". We strung each other along, being broody and passionate for nearly three long years. I was smart and gave it up, and found my "Jacob", but damn, if my "Edward" showed up at my door, right now... my heart would swell and I'd be quite seriously tempted. For about 10 seconds. Then I'd slam the door in his face.

  2. Mister Pete Says:

    Haven't seen it and after reading Kat's comment, won't. It's not mine. Oh, won't you please, dear Blogger, tell us what movies you do think are good?

  3. Borrowed the first book from my niece and was unable to get into it enough to continue. Not enough picture for me :)

  4. Kat Says:

    Good idea not to read it... I wouldn't recommend this book to a guy at all. Well, not a straight guy anyway.

  5. desi Says:

    OK. Movies I like. Uhm, that list is LONG. Independence Day is one of my all time favorites. Die Hard. Or the Terminator movies and the Predator. The original. I loved Alien, also. Not so much the third one, but the second one rocked. Other thinking man's action movies. Like The Transporter or Minority Report. Love 'em. Can't get enough.

    Love weird action movies like Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Fight Club, Pulp Fiction. Etc.

    Romances I love? Not many. Really. They're usually just barely tolerable. Chick flicks usually don't grab my heart rate and make it fly. I'm rarely convinced. The first one I ever loved was Somewhere in Time, with Chris Reeves. Also about brooding excessive love. I adored the Razor's Edge, and the ocassional odd musical like Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, which is just fun to sing and dance to. Shakespeare in Love was almost decent. My fave romance of all time is Love Actually. I WANT the boy who is in love with Keira Knightely in it. Dear God, his eyes are fantastic. And I think, oddly, that the Incredibles is one of the best tributes to married love and family love I've ever seen. Good movie. Yes, I unabashedly adore a kids movie. It was a thinking man's kids movie.

    OK. There you go. I am a Daddy's Girl, so almost ALL my favorite movies are action movies.

  6. desi Says:

    UPDATE: OK, Kat. Here's the deal. While so many other people were swept into the romance, I simply wasn't. The writer doesn't write well. Her story had the potential to be a truly great romance, but all I keep noticing is how distant our herione is from her own emotions, how detached her "voice" is. How repetitive the descriptors are. How many times am I supposed to read the phrase "impossibly beautiful" or "intense" without noticing she's repeating descriptors? This is what I mean. It wasn't WRITTEN well. The story, written by CJ Cherryh or JK Rowling or even EB White would have sucked me in. I might have sympathized with the characters. But I can't. It's written so badly in places in Book 2, that I seriously found myself wondering why the editor didn't tell her to go over it again. I can't stand this author's unengrossing, minutiae obsessed style. She NEVER sucked me into the story. I found myself rolling her eyes at the obvious lack of intelligent plot reveal. She has Bella wait so long to discover that Jacob is what he is that my opinion of Bella's intellect was affected, all so that her plot points rolled out properly. Characters act in out-of-character ways in order to allow plot points to roll out. LIke I said, I was so frustrated by the reading experience, despite that this story had amazing potential. I simply see it as unreached.

  7. desi Says:

    @Kat - You realize you're pissed at me for not liking this book, and it's our VERY FIRST argument. I'm heartbroken. You yelled shut up at me. Sniff sniff.

  8. Kat Says:

    LOL. Really. I "yelled" at you in my comment on your most recent post. This was more of a play-antagonism, "Oh girl, shut. up!" You know? Mock fighting because I love to love it even though it's bad.

    Anyway, I completely agree! I still really enjoyed the first book. You have to overlook a lot and realize who this is aimed at, but... it was like a guilty pleasure, the way Nerds are still my favorite candy. Somewhere in here, I'm totally twelve.

    The second book - I had the same problems you did, but the story was still fun. Third one? God, why did I buy these, now I have to read them!

    I've been reading a lot of "romance" type stuff aimed at teens and twenties to see what is being bought and published these days. Research. And honestly, while these have problems, some of the stuff out there that is selling like hotcakes is total shit! Far worse.

    And there you go - "this writer doesn't write well" BUT she is making a bloody fortune from her writing and kabillions of people are reading and enjoying her work. If she can do it, you can do it better.


  9. Kat Says:

    Did you just turn on comment moderation? Or just for this post? I'm curious.

  10. desi Says:

    Comment moderation is automatic on older posts. I think it's a week? Lets me make sure my stuff isn't being spammed. It's a search engine friendly thing to do.

  11. desi Says:

    OK. So I made it through all 4 books, and I have to agree, the story does round out nicely. By its own rules. I still think she shoulda just stayed human and married Jacob. Woulda made the books boring, but I WILL IT SO anyway.